Ieat Makan Session at Joe's Kitchen
My mother would have described it as "Kee Ka La Kior". (lit Kee Ka La sound ie noisy)
And that probably sums it up for the first ieat Makan Session for 2008. Well that's what you get when you try to cram 47 people into a small eatery which can comfortably seat 40. But hey, it's a great way to meet new friends and share a 14 course meal in "togetherness"!
For this session, I had asked Thai Chef Joe to whip up some dishes which I was accustomed to in Thailand which is difficult to find in Singapore. He did better than that, he even simulated a real time "Bangkok" blackout in the middle of dinner. It is amazing that when the lights go out, our kakis response is the predictable "OOooooooo" followed by a period of silence followed by someone making a wise crack to break the silence. Err, the guy making the wise crack that night would have been me!
Anyway, we were treated to some authentic Esarn food which comprised of sticky rice eaten with Som Tam (Green Papaya Salad), grilled chicken and pork neck. After spending two years in Thailand, I must say that these has become my favourite of Thai dishes although it took some time to grow on me. Not surprisingly, a lot of our kakis didn't take to it immediately. Trust me, after a few more goes, you'd prefer this over the normal Thai food. There is a good reason for it being the most popular dish in Thailand, you know.
The Kao Dang Na Dang is also another dish not commonly seen here. It is basically an appetiser comprising crispy rice cakes with a savoury minced pork and peanut dip. I thought that the chef was a little too generous with the peanuts that night and as a result the dip was a bit too oily. But some people like holydrummer was saying it was the best stuff he had ever tasted! Could still be better, my friend, with a bit more tweaking!
A lot of our kakis likened the grilled pork collar to a Thai style Char Siew. Khaw Mu Yang, or grilled pork collar is one of the most common street foods in Thailand and commonly eaten with sticky rice and Som Tam. I really miss this dish as it is not very commonly found in Thai restaurants here. Most of the kakis found it very good, though I can tell you that it can be even better if it were cut thinner and grilled till the fats melt and causes the smoke from the charcoal to flavour the meat. (Joe told me he will tweak it a bit an add it to the menu!)
Joe actually went out to buy a new grill just so that he could make the grilled pork and chicken dishes for us. The grill also meant that now he can also chargrill the condiments like lemongrass, onions, galangal, ginger etc before adding it into the Tom Yum Soup! Thanks for making the extra effort Joe!
Speaking of Tom Yum soup, Saturday's version was the closest to the one's I had in the street stalls of Thailand so far. It had the right amount of hot and sour to get the salivary glands going. Initially, he had wanted to make seafood Tom Yum, but I requested the fried fish Tom Yum instead. In retrospect, I think some of the kakis would have appreciated it more if there was seafood in the Tom Yum to give it a sweeter taste. Nevertheless, dipping a piece of the tasty, crispy fried fish into the Tom Yum soup was definitely one of the highlights of the evening for me.
The crab tang hoon drew mixed reviews from our kakis. Eastcoastlife liked it. In fact it was the only dish she liked out of the whole menu. You can read her review here. Bashful Hunter on the other hand thought it was the only item on the menu that was not so good. He was comparing the crab tang hoon with Ya Kwang's version. So it really goes to show that taste is indeed subjective even amongst a group of seasoned foodies.
Conclusion
Thanks very much to Joe and Jamie for so kindly hosting us on a Saturday night and for making the extra effort to specially cater the menu to my specification. I was happy to be able to eat my favourite Som Tam, Gai Yang with Khao Niao and also Mango Sticky Rice.
Thanks especially to Damien for organizing the makan session!
And of course thanks to everyone who turned up to add to the Chaos of the Makan Session! I hope everyone had fun and look forward to seeing you all at the next one!
If you all know of any particular restaurant which can host our makan session, do write in to let me know!
You can read Keropokman's reviews here
Eastcoastlife here
The rest of the comments on the Forum here
Ladyironchef's cleavers a bit blunt, so stay tuned
Link to previous post on Joe's Kitchen
Joe's Kitchen Blk 125,
Bukit Merah Lane 1 #01-182
(Opp Alexandra Hospital)
11am to 3pm 5pm to 10pm
62708484
Jamie 98577007
22 comments:
Overall it was a very enjoyable dinner. Had a really nice chat with Munchie and Doreen especially. Such a
nice couple :)
The menu was EXTENSIVE and real value for money!
What I REALLY like:
Som Tum (Green Papaya Salad)- it was so so crunchy, Kao Dunk Na Dunk (Rice Crisps with Minced Pork)- crisps were crispy and not oily sauce was really good, Prawn cakes - excellent EXACTLY how I love it, Gai Yang (Grilled Chicken) - I can taste the chargrilled taste. Perfect!
What I like:
Tom Yum Fried Fish Soup - I have a thing for totally clear tomyam soup else it'll be really like liao, Claypot Crab Vermicelli with fatty pork - vermicelli was good but crab already tasteless, Green Curry Beef - the consistencies and coconut level was so apt! It'll be REALLY like if chicken is used instead of the beef and served piping HOT, Red Curry Roast Duck, Poom Fy Dang - Kang Kong Thai style, Tapioca with Coconut milk - soft and not too sweet but a lil more coco milk will be better~~
What I dun like:
Khor Mu Yang (Grilled Pork)- too tough and too thick, Basil Leaf Minced Pork - very disappointing as this is my favorite thai dish, Deep fried Grouper with Thai Chilli - sauce was too sweet, overkill, Mango Sticky Rice - nothing wrong with the sticky rice but this dessert is always too sweet for my taste
I also like the plain sticky rice that went with the salad and grilled chicken and pork cuz really liked the texture. My girl had fun rolling them into mini thai sticky rice balls before popping them into her mouth!
How abt new name for Joe's Kitchen - 'FanThaiStic'? Or just simply 'Thai Sticky Rice'? ke ke
Considering the many dishes we tried that night, it's really value for money.
The tang hoon, having absorbed the seasoning and juice of the crab.... ahhh,plus the fatty pork!.... made it so yummy. I love tang hoon.
I like the grilled pork collar too. Love the smokey taste.
The rice crispies were very beautifully done. There was minced meat in the sauce meh!? I tasted only peanut and keropokman said it was tuna!@_@
Joe's plain rice is fragrant and when his Green curry sauce was spooned over it, it was delicious.
The sticky rice in the mango dessert was too salty that night.
Joe put effort into the food that night. You should see his kitchen, a tornado passed through. hehehe.... I kaypoh went to look at it. :)
Nice meeting all of you. It was an interesting makan session.
14 dishes? Woah that's insane!
Great picture btw.
hey ecl,
u also find e rice in mango sticky rice salty too? ya, tat was wat i tot too.. but apparently, e sticky rice r made in different batch as e other plate i tried is not as salty as e first plate i tried..
anyway, i totally luv e grilled chicken.. it's really e best dish i tried tat night!! too bad only had 1 small piece.. ='(
will be back to have e whole plate to myself!! wahahahahaha.. =p
les, i think munchie is not in photo 11 but rather in photo 8 lei..
ECL, I said 'ayam brand tuna like'. And I forgot to finish the sentence. hehe... I clicked post and went out for dinner.
The guest that Sumo brought was sitting beside us, and was comparing the soup to this particular brand of Thai Tomyam instant noodles. The taste is so similar. We decided to conclude that the instant noodle's really authentic. LOL. It was fiery and I love the soup.
My favourite was the fish.
The pork neck seems to be tastier if you get them from the streets of Bangkok. Maybe to get it the same taste, you need to BBQ it along AYE to get the car fumes in. LOL.
I think the portion served to our table was not thick and tough like the one described by jems. Must be a great feat to serve 40 over people at a go!
Overall impression:
not as good as Aroy Thai, for most of my group as they are all east coast people.
Rice crispies - run of the mill. peanut pork dip too oily
Prawn cakes - well prepared but not outstanding
Papaya salad - lacking kick, too much sauce making it soggy
Grilled pork neck - i liked the smoky slightly sweetish taste of the grilled meat, but something is lacking still to make it truly wonderful
Glutinous rice - slightly on the dry side, cld hv done with more water
Tom yam with friedfish - best dish of the night in my opinion. Tomyam tasted fantastic
Green Curry - decent, too much coconut, not enough curry spice
Red Curry - definitely better than the green curry, but too full to appreciate it
Deep fried fish with chilli sauce - so so, dont like deep fried fish in general, cant taste anything as chilli sauce was overkill
Basil pork - disappointment,too watery, taste better
Fried Kang Kong - good effort, but still think Aroy thai does it better
Tapioca - good
Mango Sticky Rice - good, rice tad on the salty side. but good textures. cld hv also added the crispy soy bean sprinkles on top, which they serve it with in Thailand.
Overall, good effort as its likely Joe had his hands full running the kitchen for so many hungry mouths.
The rest I don't contest but the Sticky Rice is supposed to be like this. This is how it is done in Thailand. And Mango Sticky rice is supposed to be a little salty.
I liked the Mango Sticky rice so much I finished another plate by myself after everyone left :)
Aroy Thai is also a small rest catering to limited people. Been there about 2 years back and yes it is good. Joe that night had to cater for 45 or more hungry foodies. Some of his food like the prawn cake, duck curry n tom yam are very good.Got to go there again. With less pressure I hope to enjoy his Esarn Thai food. At $35/pax for 14 dishes cannot complain.Excellent people that night for sure.
I am suffering from jet lag and can't seem to remember whether I have posted a comment here before. Would like to thank you for linking me, it is an honour! :)
Hi all, my account of the feast that night:
Like: The value. $35 for 14 dishes is as good as it gets. No complains there.
To be honest, I was slightly disappointed after the rice crispies. The sauce notwithstanding, the crispies were perfectly done, nice crunch and texture, not oily. The sauce was so-so, a tad too oily.
The chicken was good at first bite, but the meat somehow was lacking in taste. Perhaps a longer marinate was in order.
The Pork was slightly thick, though done just nicely, but flavour was not strong enough.
Som Tam was my favourite, though its a tad too wet.
Tom Yam had the right taste but not spicy enough.
The rest didnt stand out. And sad to say, I thought the fish at Taste of Thailand was better.
Hope I am not being too critical. However, the effort put in by the crew was certainly no lacking. I am confident that the dishes will be much better if not for the crowd. Cooking for 47 ppl at once is no joke. Kudos to Joe and his crew for that. And thanks to the organisers for this fantastic opportunity. For the rest of the makan kakis, truly honoured to be in your company. Looking forward for more!
but seems tat some mango sticky rice r more salty than others.. too salty in my opinion.. i feel tat e sticky rice in amagada's table is better..
I hope Joe n his wife are reading the blog.Hear the foodies and improve on it.I will visit soon n witness the improvement.
woo.. everyone is writing such long comments. and whats with the cleĆ vers a bit blunt, too much reviews too little time la. LOL!
Will let you know after my review is up : )
Btw thanks for correctly linking me. hahaha! when's yr new cam coming out?
regards
brad
haha looks like you guys had a really good time! all everyone looked cool! (even khim!)
dude, i sharpened my cleavers already. post's up
http://www.ladyironchef.com/2008/05/02/joes-kitchen/
Linked me linked me! hahahaha
this is the worse experience ever in a such highly recommended place from this blog. i brought a thai friend here to eat becoz of all the review. i waited for 1 hr b4 my food is served. the mango salad cannot make it. only a few pcs of chopped chilli and a few pcs of onion. not spicy and only taste of mango. the phad thai is more like penang fried kway teow. and the tom yam slice fish is not spicy at all... my goodness. $20 over bucks for my lunch of such standard? and the place is worse that hawker ctr. customers there dun talk, they yell and scream like there's no 1 else. geez!!!
tho I am a fan of this blog, m afraid I can't help but agree....didn't think Joe's food lived up to the hype, we tried them after reading the blog, bef the makan session.....let's just say it doesn't surface on our repeat visit list...it's more food court standard.
leslie's first visit to Joe's place was "an invited review".
his second, the makan session with all his kah kias, was booked way in advance.
you could argue that different people may have varying standards and demands when it comes to food, but it seems very probable that joe can only cook well when he needs to.
and if thats the case, any kind of radical name change publicity will still not sustain business success beyond the short run.
That's not a very fair statement because other kakis have gone on their own and said the food is good. Damien has been there a couple of times which is why he recommended the fried fish tom yum.
That being said, inconsistency is one of the big problems when it comes to eateries and we have encountered it many times.
Sometimes its the other way around, people say it is good, when I go there I found it average and they do not get written up.
So it is important for our makan kakis to write in when they go try a recommended eatery so that we have a bigger picture of what the food is really like. Unfortunately a lot of people don't write in and it is a cultural thing that Singaporeans tend to complain more than they praise so we tend to read more complains.
The other problem is that when an "anonymous" or unknown writes in, we don't really know whether the person has a hidden agenda. So sgmakankaki, I want to encourage you and others like yourself to continue to write objective comments. After a while people will begin to trust your comments much like those of our regular commenters.
I have visited Joe's Kitchen since it first opened some 3 yrs back, and have visited it on and off. The food is alright, nothing much to hype about, and to go when I wanted some Thai food.
Joe business will pick up a little now because of the Channel U program, but will taper off as the food is ok only.
Giving it a new name will not help, let's be realistic about it. It will make it worse only and waste their money for nothing, when they are still struggling to keep the business going. It is not fair to them. Who will underwrite the cost of name changing, if we are so sincere to help these poor folks. Don't need to keep on looking for credit. It is only for one's ego.
Lady boss Jamie is avery nice and sincere person, who works damn hard to keep the business going with her hubby.
The location already has quite a good exposure to different strata of visitors, from the car workshop,etc, AIA agents, hospital staff and visitors from Alexandra Hospital, and also customers to HongKong St cze char.
Just go and eat whenever you can to support them.
I am not particularly familiar with Thai food though I do like the Tom Yam soup: spicy and sour!
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